1. Give two possible ways we can interpret the words, "I thirst."
2. Why would the soldiers offer Jesus wine drugged with myrrh?
3. Why would Jesus have refused to drink this wine drugged with myrrh?
4. When do Hayesmen experience times of stress and pressure?
5. How do our discussions with Ms. Martin about tobacco and alcohol tie in with the questions 1 to four?
1. We can interpret Jesus saying "I thirst" in the literal since where are he is actually thirsty, but we can also interpret this as ascending christology. Jesus could have been thirsty for righteousness and the want to cleanse man of their sins by dying on the cross.
ReplyDelete2. The soldiers offered Jesus wine drugged with myrrh for the same reason Saitan wanted Jesus to turn the stones into bread in the desert. It was a way to taunt Jesus and try to make him stray away from his righteousness and give into the pressure of humanity. They offered him pain killers to try and demonstrate that he was weak, and diminish the fact that he said he was god in showing this weakness, but they failed.
3.Jesus denied to take the pain killers because he wanted to show that he would not give into to the worldly desires, and he wanted to show that God was protecting him from pain. The pain he was suffering was for the sins of humanity, and in taking the myrrh the victory wouldn't be as sweet as him doing it the right way and not giving into the soldiers who were taunting him and attempting to tarnish God's name.
4. Hayesmen experience times of stress and pressure when it comes to drugs, as we discussed in class. A hayesman might be pressured to take some drugs even though they do not want to, and they have to make a tough decision. They have to either take it and stray away from the right path, or do as Jesus did and deny taking it and remaining on the right path.
5. As I said in the previous question one can be tempted by drugs and alcohol. This is where they have to find an inner strength as Jesus did to say "no". It is a tough thing to do because the drugs and alcohol are enticing the same way the wine with myrrh was. The inner strength is the only thing that can will one to say "no" and refuse that temptation.
i) “I thirst” serves as a description of the small part of Jesus that is tempting to drink the myrrh. Even as the child of God, in this moment of weakness, he has some desire, to give into this temptation. “I thirst” could also describe the immense pain and suffering Jesus is feeling. Many people are thirsty after they exercise because they tired themselves out physically, and water is known to terminate that exhaustion through hydration. Though Jesus may not be asking for water, this quote could just be an exclamation of his fatigue and pain.
ReplyDeleteii) THe soldiers offered Jesus wine drugged with myrrh in order to intoxicate him and graffiti his divinity. Jesus during the crucifixion was in extreme pain, but still persevered and never gave in to the comments and persecution he was facing. If Jesus accepted the soldiers’ wine, to inoculate himself and admit that the pain was overwhelming, it would make Jesus appear less godly because not only is he too weak to deal with the pain, but also soldiers, basic humans, were the one to help Jesus or “God” with his pain. THe soldiers offered Jesus wine not because they cared about Jesus, but because they wanted to fully destroy any ounce of respect people had for him as the Child of God.
iii) Jesus refused to drink the wine drugged with myrrh because of what the action would symbolized and because of his relationship with God. Jesus understood that drinking the wine would impede people from believing that he is son of GOd because in becoming inoculated, he is admitting he cannot endure the pain of the crucifixion and that he needed the help of men in order to do so. THis submission would contradict with his divinity, and he may even lose followers. Furthermore, Jesus knew God wanted the crucifixion to happen and understood that there was a purpose to his quintessential suffering, so to intoxicate himself would be a direct insult to God’s intentions and an interference in God’s plan.
iv) Hayesmen experience times of stress and pressure in school, and like Jesus there are choices to be made of whether or not to “drink myrrh” and cheat or succeed authentically. THough tests and assignments are not as arduous and painful as crucifixion, maybe Hayesman struggle to perform well in school, and surviving the stress of doing quality work on time along with the pressure of making your parents, teachers, and self proud makes it so easy to grab the cup. However, like Jesus, we must understand our divinity , how we were put on this earth to deal with challenges on a daily basis, in their whole, unpleasant pain only to emerge a God.
v) Many teenagers’ cultures impact their decisions and opinions concerning alcohol and tobacco. If put in the circumstance, it would have been an easy decision if not an exact reflex to drink the cup of myrrh. But Ms. Martin teaches us to fight the urge to inoculate ourselves, and that despite the stress, pressure, and “crucifixion” we experience, drinking the wine is only for the weak and human, but we are beyond that. As teenagers, regardless of whatever pain we experience, we must endure it in full effect because to act otherwise is to deny ourselves of our own divinity, and give up the reputation and character our parents, God, and everyone around us has worked so hard to develop.
I thirst in John 19:28 could mean that either Jesus thirsts for justice and redemption or that Jesus thirsts for his death to finally come, allowing him to be with his father in heaven. The soldiers offered Jesus wine drugged with myrrh because the soldiers probably felt terrible for Jesus and didn't want his final moments to be hanging on a cross, in extreme pain. Jesus refused the wine because he wanted to fully experience the pain, not taking any shortcuts on the way to human redemption. Hayesmen experience times of stress and pressure when important or grade threatening tests are coming up, when they receive a lot of homework over a short period of time, or when something personal happens that might effect their performance in school. Our discussion with Ms. Martin tie in with the last four questions in multiple ways. For instance, Jesus was offered alcohol that he refused, and this alcohol was meant to soothe the pain Jesus was experiencing, just like modern, recreational alcohol. Jesus refusing this alcohol could symbolize a teenager refusing to drink alcohol with their friends at social events. Also, recreational tobacco or alcohol is sometimes used by teens when they're dealing with stress at home, school, or anywhere.
ReplyDelete1. "I thirst" can be interpreted in two ways. First, in the literal sense, at this point in John 19, Jesus has been hanging on the cross for an insufferable amount of time and is dying from both dehydration and being stabbed with spears. In the allegorical sense, Jesus thirsts for death in order to die for our sins.
ReplyDelete2. The soldiers offered Jesus wine drugged with myrrh to ease his pain and suffering.
3. Jesus refused to drink the wine because if he had, his suffering on the cross would be meaningless. If Jesus did not suffer on the cross and died he would have had no problem making the decision to die because he would be unfazed and be in no pain. Because he suffered he made a sacrifice for us so will could be absolved from sin in the future.
4. Hayesmen experience stress and pressure when either they are playing sports and are in a close game about to lose, or taking tests and afraid of failing. When tempted to do wrong they can be stressed that they will not be excepted.
5. Our discussions with Ms. Martin tie in because if our temptation to do tobacco and alcohol is similar to the temptation Jesus must have felt to not use divine power in his times of suffering on the cross and when tempted by the devil.
1. One way "I thirst" can be interpreted by illuminating Jesus' humanity because in a way Jesus searches for a remedy while on the cross. Jesus also can be asking for help on the cross from his subjects. Another way to interpret this is that "I thirst" points to Jesus' sacrifice for others. Jesus was willing to endure the suffering for all the sins and bad that others do.
ReplyDelete2. The soldiers offered Jesus wine drugged with myrrh to numb the pain of being crucified so Jesus will not feel the pain in being nailed to the cross and feel suffering.
3. Jesus refused the wine because he wanted to endure suffering to show that he can suffer for each person's sins.
4. Hayesmen experience stress and pressure when the overwhelming factor of performing at their best all the time and being afraid to fail becomes common. Also, many Hayes students believe the work load becomes overwhelming at certain times while dealing with after school activities or things at home.
5. Ms. Martin's lesson on tobacco and alcohol tie in with the previous questions because Jesus not accepting myrrh to get rid of pain can influence teens or anybody not to abuse tobacco or alcohol when they don't feel good. Often teens smoke or drink when they are feeling stressed and use narcotics as a remedy for pain and stress.
I believe Jesus suffered so no one else has to go through what he's going through.This brings me back to the rag man during our retreat when he take the bad things from the people and make them new and happy. That's the same thing Jesus is doing when he says he thirst and doesn't want to drink. Two possible ways to say "I thirst." would be fast and suffer. The soldiers offered Jesus wine drugged with myrrh so that the pain would go down while being on the cross.The wine represented an offer to ease the pain, to opt for a small shortcut. But Jesus, chose to endure with full consciousness the sufferings appointed for him. Jesus knew the wine would help take away some of the pain, but he wanted to suffer.
ReplyDeleteHayesmen experience times of stress and pressure when it comes to confessions or tests. Confessions because we as Hayesmen have committed sins that we wish we can take back also if they will be discriminated for doing wrong doings. We feel a type of way when it's time for confessions and we need to speak to the head of the church and our lord and savior.
The discussions with Ms. Martin about tobacco and alcohol tie into the other questions because we suffer from those bad sudstances, also they aren't good for you. Many Hayesmen may be involved in that kind of stuff because of their neighborhood people around them. But being in a catholic school helps us get free from those things we pray and fast which is a big factor of our school.Also how Jesus refused the wine, all people should refuse the tobacco and alcohol especially Hayesmen because we have a representation on the way we carrying ourselves. UP HAYES AND ALL IT"S LOYAL MEN
Gregory Clarke 1D
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1. "I thirst" can be used literally or figuratively. It can mean he is actually thirsty or he "is thirsty" to be free from his pain.
ReplyDelete2. The soldiers feel bad and want to help numb his pain.
3. Jesus would refuse the myrrh because he wants to fully suffer.
4. When having a surprise test or lots of homework, Hayesmen can feel stressed.
5. Questions 1-4 tie into our discussion with Ms. Martin about tobacco and alcohol because the questions talk about stress and pressure to use drugs and alcohol. 2 and 3 talk about Jesus refusing drugs. 1 talks about Jesus' thirst and refusing something to drink. 4 discusses our conversation about drugs and alcohol.